Last Update: August, 2010
EasyTutu and Tutu Mod Compatibility and Install Order
This post is a summary of discussions at various IE forums across the web, initially gathered by Miloch, Gorilym, CamDawg, berelinde, and cmorgan. It relies on you, the reader, to provide feedback and help us keep the list both accurate and up to date; please post comments in the appropriate discussion post.
This is not an endorsement list;
players are encouraged to visit the forums and read the ReadMe files for information before installing anything
. This is strictly an evaluated list of mod install order and compatibility (Carrying on in Icelus' fine tradition of comprehensive, clear information, we hope!).
Please post your player notes on compatibility for any currently unevaluated mods. We can include your mod in the list when someone has made it through a game with your mod installed, so if your mod is not here, please check it and post below. The thread following contains research notes from fellow players regarding *compatibility*, not an evaluation of content.
The list is broken into Windows and Mac OS X compatibility lists. We do not yet have any compatibility information for Linux installs. In fact, we are unawware that anyone has even tried to run Tutu or EasyTutu on Linux.
= compatible, tested.
= somewhat compatible; read the ReadMe carefully and select components carefully.
= unknown compatibility, untested, or incompatible. Little or no forum data available. Please report.
Recommendation for "core install"
on all platforms is BG, TOTSC, BG2, and TOB full install, fully patched. Please make sure your install is "custom" or "full".
For some released versions, this means you need to do a "custom" install and specify each and every file is to be copied to the hard drive.
If you are using Vista or Windows 7 -
you will save yourself troubles by installing the original games under the following conditions:
Windows: Installed Before Tutu Conversion
- Unplug/disable internet connections and turn off virus protection before installing. You can turn it back on and bring it online again after everything is installed!
- If you have the User Account Control on, turn it off before installing.
- Install each game to a directory other than the default one; for instance, when the installer asks where to put it, instead of c:\program files (x86)\games\baldurs gate\ create a new one, like c:\Baldurs Gate\.
Tutu or EastTutu Installation, Core Files
|1.1 Baldur's Gate [Bioware] ||full install, "custom" (patch if no TotSC)|
|1.2 Tales of the Sword Coast [Bioware] ||(patch if not in "The Original Saga" package or the new 4-in-1 DVD release)|
|1.3 Baldur's Gate II - Shadows of Amn [Bioware] ||full install (patch if no ToB) |
|1.4 Baldur's Gate II - Throne of Bhaal [Bioware] ||full install (patch if not latest version, DVD release) |
Reminder - Tutu and EasyTutu are conversions, or mods... they require the original games (BOTH OF THEM) in order to use both sets of resources.
Backup and Tweaking
Choice of Conversion
| Run Baldurs Gate and Baldur's Gate - SoA once to set graphics. See the bigg's posts on SHS, G3, and PPG like this one regarding modern graphics cards. |
|browse to your BGII game directory, find the file: baldur.ini, open it (with Notepad or Textpad) and add the line: Debug Mode=1 just under [Program Options]. |
|A: Copy your installed BG and BG2 folders onto any backup media |
|B: .rar, .zip, or otherwise archive your full core installations, so that you can easily revert without a complete reinstall. |
|C: Visit the PPG instructions on creating smaller backups |
|Prepare CD ISO or virtual drive if you would like to prevent extra wear and tear on your disks. If you do not already have this as part of your computing environment, one set of Windows instructions can be found at forevergeeks iso instructions , with a Win7 x64 Pro combination of isorecorder and virtual clonedrive . Because let's just face it - the game discs are getting tougher to come by. |
|Download the latest version of WeiDU for Windows and extract it someplace safe, outside of your game directory, so that it is available when you are ready to add mods later on. |
At this point, you have two basic choices for Tutu ("BG To Two") conversion: Tutu v4
, or EasyTutu
(Note: Recommendation is *not* to use the unreleased-but-still-available-if-you-poke-around-in-dark-corners Tutu v5 or Tutu v6, as they are both unstable and increment chapters differently, clobbering Tutu mods.)
The most complete, bugfixed, and stable version of Tutu is Macready's EasyTutu_ToB
. Second rank, for those for whom ToB is unavailable, is Macready's EasyTutu_SoA
2 - Tutu Conversion
for english language installs.
is the preferred Tutu base for standard english language installations. While most mods support use of just BG and SoA, the most complete install possible is preferable. Since it creates a new directory, gathers resources from both BG and BG2, and extracts a stable tested bugfixed override folder, you can mod the original games to your heart's content after the conversion. If you are using EasyTutu, you have three completely separate games. EasyTutu comes pre-Baldurdashed, pre-BG2 Fixpacked, Baldurdash - Game Text Updated, Journal Entry Behavior repaired, and is the most stable version currently available for Tutu. Macready's newest EasyTutu_ToB and EasyTutu_SoA use the BG2 spell system. Basically, this is the highest level of Tutu platform completion available.
When you are done, you will have three separate installs. We keep repeating this, becuse it seems many folks get confused. Think of the original two games as a foundation, and Easytutu as a third independent block piled on both, in a pyramid. Think of Tutu as a stack of two blocks, with the top block carved into a new shape.
Installation Order for EasyTutu ToB or SoA
| 2 A EasyTutu_ToB or if you have no ToB, EasyTutu_SoA [USO] || NOTE: YOUR GAME DIRECTORY IS DIFFERENT AFTER INSTALLING EASYTUTU. Older mods may say "install to your BGII - SoA Directory". EasyTutu creates a separate, stand-alone game and a default directory of c:\BaldursGateTutu. This is your new Tutu game directory, and where you should install all mods for your Tutu game. |
If you absolutely have to (you are using a language other than english and you want yur tutu game to use one of the translations), you can skip down to 2B at this point, and read about Tutu v4. But you shouldn't... unless you absolutely have to.
| WeiDU ("BiggDU") WO || Browse to the folder: WeiDU and find the file: weidu.exe. Copy this file into your Tutu game directory (probably c:\BaldursGateTutu\). Rename it setup-latest.exe or any name that will remind you what the version is, so updating agian is easier. Do not run this .exe - WeiDU will be able to auto-update each mod you add to your install from this point forward to the latest WeiDU version. |
| 2 B.1 EasyTutu Hotfixes [USO] || CHECK TO SEE IF NEEDED - Macready may put out a special hotfix as he finds things between big releases. Currently, there are none! |
| 2 B.2 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO] || |
| 2 B.3 EasyTutu NPC Kits [USO] || |
| 3.1 TutuFix [PPG] || TutuFix detects EasyTutu and will skip the Core Fixes component as they are already included in EasyTutu.) |
| Component: || BG2 Ammo Stacks |
| Component: || Balanced Totemic Druid Spirit Summons |
| Component: || BG1 Summoning Spells |
| Component: || Hooded Unarmored Avatars & Bards |
| Do Not Install: || Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2 (causes crashes) If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package... |
| Do Not Install: || Walking Speeds (strange behaviors on slow, haste, etc.) - This component is better off being installed at the end during BG2 Tweaks, as BG2 Tweaks now has a similar more robust component. |
| 4.1 Original BG1 Music [PPG forum discussion] || In Tutu v4: rename Tutu v4 Music folder Music-BG2, and copy BG1 Music folder from BG1 install directory to Tutu v4 directory. Not needed in EasyTutu . EasyTutu uses the BG music automatically. |
| 4.2 Restored BG1 Casting Sounds [PPG] || |
| 4.3 Restored Textscreen Music [SHS] || |
| Hard Times Mod [USO] || This modifies base EasyTutu and should come before additional modding. |
| 5.0 Herbs & Potions Add-In [BWL] || |
| 5.1 Song and Silence [G3] || Note: also contains optional expansion of kits. |
| 5.2 Vedran's Lost Items [SHS] || Ascension64 has rebuilt this for Tutu/BGT |
| 6.1 Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters G3 || This includes Jastey's "Slime Quest" plus several other mini quests. |
| 6.2 Grey Clan Episode I [BWL] || |
| 6.3 Sirine's Call Quest for Tutu and BGT [PPG] || |
| 6.4 Stone of Askavar [COM] || Currently, you will need to edit the tp2 manually to allow uninstallation and use the Tutu Area patch. Some mod added items only use BG proficiencies. |
| 6.5 Secret of Bone Hill [IEGMC] || (aka SoBH): currently being adjusted here; check forums for updates and information |
| 7.1 BG1UB for Tutu/BGT[PPG] || This comprehensive mod includes fixes and restorations, some of which patch materials other mods use. |
| || BG1 Unfinished Business for Tutu/BGT detects The BG1 NPC Project and automatically skip incompatible materials if you install it secons instead of first. If you plan on installing both BG1NPC and BG1UB for Tutu/BGT, do not install the following UB components: |
| || Angelo Notices Shar-Teel |
| || Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest |
| || Coran and the Wyverns |
| || Kivan and Tazok |
| || Branwen and Tranzig |
| 7.2 The BG1 NPC Project [G3] || Compatible with most other Tutu mods in different install orders, as long as AI and Tweak mods follow at the end of the installation. |
| || A reminder that the Player Initiated Dialogues component must be installed last in this mod. The installer will uninstall PIDs if you change dialogue components, and then ask you to reinstall the PID component at the end. Because it includes fixes and repairs, this mod combines the functions of Fixpack, Quest, NPC, Item, and Graphic mods. |
| 7.2 BG1 NPC Music Pack [G3] || |
| 7.3 Xan's BG1 Alternate Soundset[PPG] || XanBG2Voice.exe works fine when installed after BG1 NPC Project. |
| 7.4 Xan's BG1 Friendship Talks [PPG] || Just like Xan's Voiceset, this mod actually could go many places, but we might as well keep all his install components together |
| 7.5 Coran's Friendship[G3] || Is just as independent as Xan, but the elves like to stick together. |
| 8.1 Mulgore/Xavia NPCs [SHS] || The new version for Tutu and BGT is found at SHS and is fully compatible. |
| 8.2 Finch NPC [PPG] || See forums for a bugfix or two, though. |
| 8.3 Indira NPC [PPG] || |
| 8.4 Mur'Neth NPC [G3] || |
| 8.5 Gavin [G3] || |
| 8.6 Jonathan v0.2.1 [Independent] || |
| If you are installing both of these, place Moinesse's Avatars before One Pixel Productions. || For the rest, any order will do - some modify add-in NPCs, some will overwrite others. In general, last installed is the one that wins, if contents conflict! |
| Moinesse's Avatars [G3] || |
| One Pixel Productions [SHS] || v2, + patches, or full weidu package v2.# which installs v2 and patches. Note: The special fixes and prereleases work in Tutu; go to the forums for special install instructions and order of applying patches to upgrade your v2 with pre-release v3 content. Better yet, use the WeiDu "full version" package. |
| BG1 NPC Portrait Pack [G3] || |
| Plasmocat's "Picks of the Litter" Portraits [G3] || |
| Plasmocat's "BG NPC Portraits in BG2 Style" [G3] || |
| JPS Portrait Pack [G3] || |
| Baldur's Goth for Tutu v1 [IEGMC/SHS] || Compatible with the exception of Fabio, who is a SoBH NPC (see above). |
| Baldur's Goth II v3.1 [IEGMC/SHS] || there are two very similar files on the Wizard's Mirror: GTBGT_v3.1.rar and TuTu_BGoth.rar. Install the GTBGT_v3.1.rar if you want to use this mod for Tutu. No fix pending currently. Tutu version will throw errors. |
| Improved BAMs [G3] || |
| Alternative BG1 Portraits Mod [TBG] || |
| Blonde Imoen [G3] || Blonde Imoen is not Tutu-compatible without some manual hackery. |
| 10.1 eSeries Scripts [G3] || v1.8 includes BP Detectable Stats/Detectable Spells content, so needs no DS. May need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums|
| 10.2 gMinion Scripts [G3]|| may need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums |
| 10.3 Yovaneth's Saga Scripts v2.3 [sgSeries][SHS] || |
| 11.1 Wild Mage[IEGMC] || |
| 11.2 Orc Scout Kit [IEGMC] || |
| 11.3 Sorceror's Place Collection [G3] || but not Creslyn's Item Pack (BG2 only) |
| 11.4 Oversight [G3] || Compatible: Holy Liberator Paladin kit, Altered Spells, Cleric Kits (just the alignment changes for kit priests) only || |
| 11.5 Sword and Fist [G3] |
| 11.6 Divine Remix [G3] || |
| 11.7 RTTKitpack v1.12 [SHS] || |
| 11.8 Arcane/Divine Pack[IEGMC || Compatible on installs without Devine Remix or other AI, Spell Revision style mods, etc. Needs additional testing. Tweaks many mage and cleric spells. Appears to add a "spell restoration" scroll to your PC to correct spellbook entries you shouldn't have. |
| 12.1 Mix-Mod [Independent] || except that 8. Turn off Startup Movies for IWD1/2 BG2/Tutu PST does not seem to work on EasyTutu... Miloch's Note: Mix-Mod's Disable Startup Movies should work if you install it on both Tutu and BG2 (or use this version). |
| 12.2 SimDing0's D0TweaksPPG || Just Enhanced Goodberries, Bigg's Improved Backstabbing, Sensible Lore, and Summons Trigger Traps components |
| 12.3 Refinements SHS || Just Shapeshifting fix; different from BG2 Tweak Pack and TutuFix versions. |
| 12.4iiItem[TBG] || may actually be best placed after BG2 Tweaks - should definitely be placed after anything that adds stores or items |
| 12.5iiProjectile Retrieval Mod[TBG] || |
| 12.6iiTweak[TBG] || Some overlapping between BG2 Tweak Pack and this mod - please read documentation of both mods carefully if you install both. |
| 12.7iiLearn Through Use Mod[TBG] || |
| 12.8Spell System Adjustment Mod [TBG] || (is this the best place in the order, igi?) |
| 12.9 Rogue Rebalancing Rogue Rebalancing mod || Fully compatible with Tutu (and Easy TuTu) for any versions above v3.7. Any components of RR which rely on BG2 areas or characters (i.e. the Chosen of Cyric Encounter) will be automatically skipped during the installation process. aVENGER maintains one of the most comprehensive compatibility guides anywhere, right here. |
| 12.10Aurora's Shoes and Boots [SHS] || (is this the best place in the order, miloch?) |
| 12.11 aTweaks SHS || |
| 12.11 Full Plate and Packing Steel [G3] || Armour revisions mod. |
| 12.11 Ashes of Embers [PPG] (removes class weapon restrictions, adds kits/armor) || Note: maximum 9 kits per class; thus, some may overwrite or conflict with others - please be selective and keep track of what you install. Other mods down the list add kits too... The "Sensible Weapon Restrictions for MODS" component of Ashes of Embers needs to be installed after mods that add items. |
| 12.12 BG2 Tweak Pack [G3] || Strongly Recommended (Detects and installs appropriate components for Tutu: do not let its name fool you! This is is the replacement for the G3 Tutu Tweaks. You must read the documentation before installing.) Make Montaron an Assassin - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply Make Khalid a Fighter/Mage - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply |
| 12.13 Sword Coast Strategems [G3] || Should go after BG2 Tweaks. To clarify this: you can install SCS and the Khalid/Monty improvements in either order and it won't break the game. But if you want the choose-proficiencies component of SCS to apply to the modified Khalid/Monty, you need to install them before SCS. TweakPack overwrites the old versions of Khalid and Monty with new CRE files, so it removes the set-them-to-level-zero changes imposed by SCS. |
| 12.14 EasyTutu Spawn Randomizer [USO] || Can go anywhere, but is a likely candidate for uninstall/reinstall with different spawn percentages. |
| [12 FLOATING] Infinity Animations [SHS] || Throne of Bhaal patched to version 26498 support ONLY - if you have EasyTutu_ToB installed, it should worrk well for you. On EasyTutu_SoA will probably fail spectacularly, so don't try it... Install this mod after most other mods, particularly those that add creatures or animations, but before any final "biffing" routines. This is a huge graphics conversion mod, so read teh documentation carefully, gather the right downloads, and follow directions, and you will be so happy with the result! |
| [12 FLOATING] Level 1 NPCs [G3 ] || Can be installed at any point, but for the purposes of keeping the NPCs you change from being repatched or replaced by other mods, close to the end off the install is expected. Games have successfully been completed with placement right before and right after BG2 Tweaks and/or SCS. As it is likely to be a mod that you rerun, probably last before GUI is indicated. |
| [ANYWHERE] Drizzt Is Not Stupid USO || This can go anywhere, and looks like it will work with everything. |
| [ANYWHERE] SHS PC Soundsets SHS || This can go anywhere, and will work with everything. |
| World Map v6.7 and greater SHS || It should be placed last in the install order judging by the ReadMe, but we have not yet had any direct recommendations from testing. Definitely check the forums for more information. |
| WoundedLion's Morrow Gate RPG Forums || Works on Tutu, but not comprehensively tested. As with many tweak mods, late in the install order, and be sure you aren't using several mods that patch the same behaviors! |
| LadeJarl's TutuGUI [PPG] || This and the related Setup-TutuGUIFONT.exe found in the forums afterwards give you the BG GUI. |
| GUI.2 Widescreen Mod [G3] || If you install the TutuGUI and Widescreen on the same install, there will be some graphical issues. Please see the Widescreen forums for more information. |
Your Tutu install directory is BaldursGateTutu
. You may delete BG1 and BG2 if you want, and mod on EasyTutu; or (recommended) you can leave your BG2 install and mod it for your eventual transition to BG2 (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character). Older mods will ask you to install into BGII - SoA - you need to ignore that and use your Tutu install directory instead.
OR (if you have to)
2 B.0 Tutu v4
for non-english language installs
Tutu v4 directly modifies your BG2 install, and must be uninstalled if you wish to play BG2 on the same install. It is primarily useful if you are using a non-english language distribution, or if you want to use non-WeiDU mods that require you to install them before converting to Tutu. EasyTutu is much more stable and incorporates many fixes and organized Journal entries. Do not use this unless you absolutely have to for language reasons or legacy mod reasons. Tutu v4 is no longer in development.
2 B.1 Install Baldurdash GTU
Game Text Update on your BG install (If you want). If you want to, add its related fix components, but all of those fixes are repaired by the next entry,
2 B.2 Install BG2 FixPack [G3]
on BG2 (highly recommended.)
2 B.3 Convert your BG2 install using Tutu v4 [PPG]
2 B.4 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO]
Confirmed working with Tutu v4 as well as EasyTutu
2 A.5 TutuFix [PPG]
(required, mandatory, you must install the core components if you are using v4):
If you use Tutu v4, your Tutu install directory is BGII - SoA
. In order to play BG2, you will have to move a transition save out, uninstall Tutu, and then mod BG2 appropriately
before transitioning (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character).
At this point, both Tutu v4 and EasyTutu are ready to play. If you would like to add more mods to your experience, then you can continue below; otherwise, just enjoy the BG content as it unfolds in the BG2 engine.
Mac OS X : Compatible Mods & Fixes
[edit in progress ]
We have fallen out of date on this section. For a mac-specific set of instructions, please refer to this post
TEST SECTION: PLEASE HELP REPORT ON THESE.
Currently, most of the available Chosen of Mystra Forge/Adventure mods are Tutu-incompatible, aimed squarely at BG1. Please visit those forums to enhance your original BG1 game.
The BG1 Adventure mod installs successfully in Tutu, but modifies BG2 areas on the Tutu install. Incompatible!
There may be more new mods - in particular, any BG2 kit mods should work with Tutu in theory (e.g. Geomantic Sorcerer).
The following mods will potentially work with Tutu. igi is willing to make them compatible if someone discovers that they are not:
iiKey Names Mod [not sure if this is really needed - do we have any BG1 keys?]
PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Drizzt saga, WeiDU version http://forums.blackw...p?showforum=103
PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Victor's Improvements Pack version 1.9 for BG2 (4 components)
Components in mod install order:
1. Victor's Improved Races component
2. Victor's Wizards Know Better (have more Lore) component
3. Faithful Rogue Kit
6. The Burning Man kit
PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A FIRST AND SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Rumored: BP might be installable on Tutu for AI scripting. Need confirmation and information, plus links.
- the SP soundsets should work, if someone can test and provide links.
Frequently Asked Confusions:
|upgraded: Ease of Use || Replaced by BG2 Tweaks, with all content moved into that mod. |
|upgraded: G3 Tutu Tweaks || Replaced by BG2 Tweaks, with all content moved into that mod. |
|upgraded: Jastey's SlimeQuest || Replaced by Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters Modification, with all content moved into that mod. |
|upgraded: HardenCoonor's Tutu Addon || Replaced by Unfinished Business for Tutu/BGT, with all content moved into that mod. Original mod will not be compatible with most modern mods. |
|Warrior Kitpack [BWL] - removed from distribution || Available via PM to the author. |
- I have installed BG1UB and BG2UB, and something is wrong...
BG1UB deals with BG content. BG2UBdeals with BG2 content. Tutu/EasyTutu ONLY has BG content. So, BG2UB will not do anything but mess up your Tutu installation, if you can trick it into installing in the first place.
- I have installed all these great mods on my BGII game [or I have an error when installing a Tutu mod on BG2] , but nothing has changed...
What has probably happened is you are using EasyTutu, and you keep following directions that send you to add mods to c:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA. When you installed EasyTutu, it left a clean Baldurs Gate, and a clean BGII - SoA for your gaming enjoyment. Now, all the Easytutu/Tutu mods need to be applied to your new, shiny BaldursGateTutu directory.
If you are using the older Tutu v4, you only have two directories - one for BG and the other for BG2. Adding mods to Baldurs Gate will not have any effect on your Tutu game. You will need to add them to your BG2 game, as it has been converted to use BG content, but is actually a modification added to the BGII - SoA game.
- I installed BG2 Tweakpack, and nothing is chaned in my EasyTutu game...
BG2 Fixpack will have no effect on EasyTutu/Tutu v4; EasyTutu has the relevant fixes applied already, and with Tutu v4 you will have better luck moving up to EasyTutu. BG2 Tweaks, though, is designed to be used on the BG2 engine, so it will work beautifully on EasyTutu, Tutu v4, or BG2... provided you have installed it in the right place. Please chack to make sure that you have applied it to your EasyTutu game directory, not your BG2 game directory, if you are using EasyTutu. (If you are using Tutu v4, the BG2 directory is the right place).
- I copied the game folders to a new location, and am running he game directly off of the new location by clicking on BGMAIN.EXE. I get one of two things - an error message that stops the game from starting, or I keep applying mods to the correct directory but the mods just aren't applying.
Chances are, you forgot to re-path the baldur.ini file. The game still thinks it is looking for your original directory. Usig Notepad, open baldur.ini in your EasyTutu folder. Find the following section:
HD0:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\
CD1:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD1\
CD2:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\;D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\
CD3:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD3\
CD4:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD4\
CD5:=D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD5\
and change it to match your new location. For example, cmorgan's testing folder, which gets deleted and rebuilt several times a year, has the remapping like this:
and the clean backup is archived using winrar. When it is time to clean up, the old E:\TEST1 gets deleted and the harddrive defragmented, and then the backup is extracted in place. If he needs to compare two games for some reason, then the same archive is extracted again, the file renamed TEST2, and the second copy is re-pathed
- I keep getting "insert disk" errors loading, and I put my BG or BG2 disk in, and it doesn't work...
The game requires that the disk related to the game engine be installed. Since you are playing BG content, but using the BG2 engine, the game will not recognise your BG disk - it wants the SoA or ToB disk inserted. To take care of this permanently, we suggest creating an ISO of your ToB disk and mounting it before playing EasyTutu or Tutu. If you are still just using SoA, you need that disk instead - but take the time to get the ToB disk and use it as the basis for the game. You will thank yourself later...
Edited by cmorgan, 26 August 2010 - 08:54 AM.