Tutu Mod Compatibility and Order of Install, Summarized State of the Modding Union on Tutu Options

[cmorgan]

This post is a summary of discussions at various IE forums across the web, gathered by Miloch, Gorilym, CamDawg, berelinde, and cmorgan. It relies on you, the reader, to provide feedback and help us keep the list both accurate and up to date; please post comments in the appropriate discussion post.

This is not an endorsement list; players are encouraged to visit the forums and read the ReadMe files for information before installing anything . This is strictly an evaluated list of mod install order and compatibility (Carrying on in Icelus' fine tradition of comprehensive, clear information, we hope!).

Please post your player notes on compatibility for any currently unevaluated mods. We can include your mod in the list when someone has made it through a game with your mod installed, so if your mod is not here, please check it and post below. The thread following contains research notes from fellow players regarding *compatibility*, not an evaluation of content.
The list is broken into Windows and Mac OS X compatibility lists. We do not yet have any compatibility information for Linux installs.

Last Update: Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Color Map:
Green = compatible, tested.
Yellow = somewhat compatible; read the ReadMe carefully and select components carefully.
Red = unknown compatibility, untested, or incompatible. Little or no forum data available. Please report.

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Recommendation for "core install" on all platforms is BG, TOTSC, BG2, and TOB full install, fully patched. Please make sure your install is "custom" or "full".

Windows: Installed Before Tutu Conversion

Tutu or EastTutu Installation, Core Files

1 - Core Program Files	Comments
1.1 Baldur's Gate [Bioware]	full install, "custom" (patch if no TotSC)
1.2 Tales of the Sword Coast [Bioware]	(patch if not in "The Original Saga" package)
1.3 Baldur's Gate II - Shadows of Amn [Bioware]	full install (patch if no ToB)
1.4 Baldur's Gate II - Throne of Bhaal [Bioware]	full install (patch if not latest version, DVD release)

Mac OSX: Installed Before Tutu Conversion

Tutu or EastTutu Installation, Core Files

1 - Core Program Files	Comments
1.1 Baldurs Gate	full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel] (if not using TOTSC, [GraphSim])
1.2 Tales of the Sword Coast	full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel] (TOTSC needs no patching)
1.3 Baldurs Gate II - SoA	full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.4 Baldurs Gate II - ToB	full install, fully patched [MacPlay]

Backup and Tweaking

Conversion Preparation

Test Vanilla Install and Set Graphics
Run Baldurs gate and Baldur's Gate - SoA once to set graphics. See the bigg's posts on SHS, G3, and PPG regarding modern graphics cards.
Edit baldur.ini for debugging and CLUAConsole
browse to your BGII game directory, find the file: baldur.ini, and add the line: Debug Mode=1
Create Backups for simple reversion to a clean install
A: Copy your installed BG and BG2 folders onto any backup media
OR
B: .rar, .zip, or otherwise archive your full core installations, so that you can easily revert without a complete reinstall.
OR
C: Visit the PPG instructions on creating smaller backups
Create virtual drive/ISO if wanted
Prepare CD ISO or virtual drive if you would like to prevent extra wear and tear on your disks (instructions not yet prepared)
Get Latest Version of WeiDU
Download the latest version of WeiDU for [ url=<<INSERT LINK HERE>>] Windows[ / url] or [ url=<<INSERT LINK HERE>>] OSX[ / url] and extract it someplace safe, outside of your game directory, so that it is available when you are ready to add mods later on.

Choice of Conversion
At this point, you have two basic choices for Tutu ("BG To Two") conversion: Tutu v4, or EasyTutu.
(Note: Recommendation is *not* to use the unreleased-but-still-available-if-you-poke-around-in-dark-corners Tutu v5 or Tutu v6, as they are both unstable and increment chapters differently, clobbering Tutu mods.)

The most complete, bugfixed, and stable version of Tutu is Macready's EasyTutu_ToB. Second rank, for those for whom ToB is unavailable, is Macready's EasyTutu_SoA.

2 - Tutu Conversion

EasyTutu for english language installs.

EasyTutu_TOB is the preferred Tutu base for standard english language installations. While most mods support use of just BG and SoA, the most complete install possible is preferable. Since it creates a new directory, gathers resources from both BG and BG2, and extracts a stable tested bugfixed override folder, you can mod the original games to your heart's content after the conversion. If you are using EasyTutu, you have three completely separate games. EasyTutu comes pre-Baldurdashed, pre-BG2 Fixpacked, Baldurdash - Game Text Updated, Journal Entry Behavior repaired, and is the most stable version currently available for Tutu. Macready's newest EasyTutu_ToB and EasyTutu_SoA use the BG2 spell system. Basically, this is the highest level of Tutu platform completeion available.

Installation Order for EasyTutu ToB or SoA

Tutu Conversion
2 A EasyTutu_ToB or if you have no ToB, EasyTutu_SoA [USO]	NOTE: YOUR GAME DIRECTORY IS DIFFERENT AFTER INSTALLING EASYTUTU. Older mods may say "install to your BGII - SoA Directory". EasyTutu creates a separate, stand-alone game and a default directory of c:\BaldursGateTutu. This is your new Tutu game directory, and where you should install all mods for your Tutu game.
Tutu Basic Cleanup and Tweaking
2 B.1 EasyTutu Hotfixes [USO]	CHECK TO SEE IF NEEDED - Macready may put out a special hotfix as he finds things between big releases. Currently, there are none!
2 B.2 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO]
2 B.3 EasyTutu NPC Kits [USO]
Tutu Pre-Mod Adjustments
3.1 TutuFix	TutuFix detects EasyTutu and will skip the Core Fixes component as they are already included in EasyTutu.) [PPG]
Component:	BG2 Ammo Stacks
Component:	Balanced Totemic Druid Spirit Summons
Component:	BG1 Summoning Spells
Component:	Hooded Unarmored Avatars & Bards
Do Not Install:	Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2 (causes crashes) If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...
Do Not Install:	Walking Speeds (strange behaviors on slow, haste, etc.) - This component is better off being installed at the end during BG2 Tweaks, as BG2 Tweaks now has a similar more robust component.

Your Tutu install directory is BaldursGateTutu. You may delete BG1 and BG2 if you want, and mod on EasyTutu; or (recommended) you can leave your BG2 install and mod it for your eventual transition to BG2 (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character). Older mods will ask you to install into BGII - SoA - you need to ignore that and use your Tutu install directory instead.


OR (if you have to)


2 B.0 Tutu v4 for non-english language installs

Tutu v4 directly modifies your BG2 install, and must be uninstalled if you wish to play BG2 on the same install. It is primarily useful if you are using a non-english language distribution, or if you want to use non-WeiDU mods that require you to install them before converting to Tutu. EasyTutu is much more stable and incorporates many fixes and organized Journal entries. Do not use this unless you absolutely have to for language reasons or legacy mod reasons. Tutu v4 is no longer in development.

2 B.1 Install Baldurdash GTU Game Text Update on your BG install (If you want). If you want to, add its related fix components, but all of those fixes are repaired by the next entry,
2 B.2 Install BG2 FixPack [G3] on BG2 (highly recommended.)
2 B.3 Convert your BG2 install using Tutu v4 [PPG]
2 B.4 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO] Confirmed working with Tutu v4 as well as EasyTutu
2 A.5 TutuFix [PPG] (required, mandatory, you must install the core components if you are using v4):
Core Component/Fixes

If you use Tutu v4, your Tutu install directory is BGII - SoA . In order to play BG2, you will have to move a transition save out, uninstall Tutu, and then mod BG2 appropriately before transitioning (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character).



At this point, both Tutu v4 and EasyTutu are ready to play. If you would like to add more mods to your experience, then you can continue below; otherwise, just enjoy the BG content as it unfolds in the BG2 engine.

If you want to make additional adjustments,


4 - Sound Mods
4.1 Original BG1 Music [PPG forum discussion]
In Tutu v4: rename Tutu v4 Music folder Music-BG2, and copy BG1 Music folder from BG1 install directory to Tutu v4 directory. In EasyTutu: Not needed. EasyTutu uses the BG music automatically.
4.2 Restored BG1 Casting Sounds [PPG]
4.3 Restored Textscreen Music [SHS]

5 - Item/Store/Other Dependencies Mods
5.0 Herbs & Potions Add-In [BWL]
5.1 Song and Silence [G3] Note: also contains optional expansion of kits.
5.2 Vedran's Lost Items [SHS]Ascension64 has rebuilt this for Tutu/BGT
5.3 iiItem [TBG]
NOTE: While an Item Mod, igi's balanced items should be installed late in the install if you want to add to mod creatures. Install here if you would like to retain mod creatures as is, without adding igi's random items to mod-added creatures.

6 - Quest Mods
6.1 Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters Modification G3 This includes Jastey's "Slime Quest" plus several others.
6.2 Grey Clan Episode I [BWL]
6.3 Sirine's Call Quest [PPG] Concurrent use of SC and BG1 NPC versions below v12 require a workaround use of CLUAConsole. BG1 NPC v14 and above are compatible.
6.4 Stone of Askavar [COM]
NOTE: Currently, you will need to edit the tp2 manually to allow uninstallation and use the Tutu Area patch. Some mod added items only use BG proficiencies.
>>>6.5>>>Pending Secret of Bone Hill [IEGMC] (aka SoBH): currently being adjusted bugs

7 - Comprehensive Mods and Related Tweaks

7.6 OR 7.0 BG1UB V6 for Tutu/BGT[PPG]
This comprehensive mod includes fixes and restorations, some of which patch materials other mods use. Because it includes fixes and repairs, this mod combines the functions of Fixpack, Quest, Item, and Graphic mods. BG1 Unfinished Business for Tutu detects The BG1 NPC Project and automatically skip incompatible materials.
If you install both BG1NPC and BG1UB for Tutu/BGT, do not install the following UB components:

• Angelo Notices Shar-Teel
• Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest
• Coran and the Wyverns
• Kivan and Tazok
• Branwen and Tranzig
• Corrected Minor Dialogues/Minor Dialogue Restorations (version dependent title)

Currently, installs with BG1UB placed before BG1NPC have been able to use the "Corrected Minor Dialogues" without error. BG1UB has been updated to automatically skip the conflicting components if you install BG1 NPC first.

cmorgan note: UPDATE on BG1UB/BG1NPC compatibility. Looking at the code, a careful of install of BG1 UB v6 before BG1NPC, not installing the conflicting components, looks like the most effective install order in terms of both fixes and keeping the most content/cre changes active between the two mods. New users, however, will find it easiest to simply let BG1IUB go second and have it auto-skip the conflicting components.

7.1 BG1 NPC Project v16 [G3]
This comprehensive mod includes fixes to match many Tutu v4 install quirks, but for the best experience EasyTutu is recommended. It is compatible with most other Tutu mods in different install orders, as long as AI and Tweak mods follow at the end of the installation. A reminder that the Player Initiated Dialogues component must be installed last in this mod. The installer will uninstall PIDs if you change dialogue components, and then ask you to reinstall the PID component at the end. Because it includes fixes and repairs, this mod combines the functions of Fixpack, Quest, NPC, Item, and Graphic mods.

7.2 BG1 NPC Music Pack [G3]
7.3 Xan's BG1 Alternate Soundset[PPG] (XanBG2Voice.exe) works fine when installed after BG1 NPC Project
7.4 Xan's BG1 Friendship Talks [PPG] Just like Xan's Voiceset, this mod actually could go many places, but we might as well keep all his install components together
7.5 Coran's Friendship[G3] is just as independent as Xan, but the elves like to stick together.

8 - NPC Mods
8.1 >> Mulgore/Xavia NPCs [SHS] Versions lower than v5 overwrite Ulgoth's Beard Inn area and area scripts and throw some parse errors. The new version for Tutu and BGT is found at SHS.
8.2 Finch NPC [PPG]
8.3 Indira NPC [PPG]
8.4 Mur'Neth NPC [G3]
8.5 Gavin [G3]
8.6 Jonathan v0.2.1 [Independent]

9 - Graphical Mods (some modify add-in NPCs; some will overwrite others, so order is subjective. In general, last installed is the one that wins, if contents conflict!)
Special considerations within this category:
If you are installing both of these, place Moinesse's Avatars before One Pixel Productions:

• Moinesse's Avatars [G3]
• One Pixel Productions [SHS]
  FOR MAC: fixed-for-OS X version of the 1PP mod is available for download here. Please note that the special fixes and prereleases found at SHS work beautifully in Tutu; go to the forums for special install instructions and order of applying patches to upgrade your v32 with pre-release v3 content.

Not in any particular order:

• BG1 NPC Portrait Pack [G3]
• Plasmocat's "Picks of the Litter" Portraits [G3]
• Plasmocat's "BG NPC Portraits in BG2 Style" [G3]
• JPS Portrait Pack [G3]
• Baldur's Goth for Tutu v1 [IEGMC/SHS] Compatible with the exception of Fabio, who is a SoBH NPC (see above). This is likely due to the as-yet partial compatibility of SoBH.
• Baldur's Goth II v3.1 [IEGMC/SHS] Compatible. Previous partial-compatibility warning due to the fact there are two very similar files on the Wizard's Mirror: GTBGT_v3.1.rar and TuTu_BGoth.rar. Install the GTBGT_v3.1.rar if you want to use this mod for Tutu. The "TuTu" labeled version does the same things, but causes errors.{cmorgan edit - Are you sure on this one? Can some folks do some additional testing so the author can fix the Tutu version? }
• Improved BAMs [G3]
• Alternative BG1 Portraits Mod [TBG]
• Blonde Imoen [G3]
  Blonde Imoen is not Tutu-compatible without some manual hackery.

10 - AI/Scripting Mods
10.1 eSeries Scripts [G3] v1.8 includes BP Detectable Stats/Detectable Spells content, so needs no DS. May need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums
10.2 gMinion Scripts [G3] may need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums
10.3 Yovaneth's Saga Scripts v2.3 [sgSeries][SHS]

11 - Kit/Spell Mods (Note: maximum 9 kits per class; thus, some may overwrite or conflict with others - please be selective and keep track of what you install.)
11.1 Wild Mage[IEGMC]
11.2 Warrior Kitpack [BWL]
11.3 Orc Scout Kit [IEGMC]
11.4 Sorceror's Place Collection [G3]
but not Creslyn's Item Pack (BG2 only)
11.5 Oversight [G3]
Holy Liberator Paladin kit, Altered Spells, Cleric Kits (just the alignment changes for kit priests) only
11.6 Sword and Fist [G3]
11.7 Divine Remix [G3]
11.8 RTTKitpack v1.12 [SHS]
>>> Arcane/Divine Pack[IEGMC]: Compatible in initial smoke testing. Tweaks many mage and cleric spells. Appears to add a "spell restoration" scroll to your PC to correct spellbook entries you shouldn't have? If you plan on using something like Divine Remix, you might want to install this first or consider the conflicts/overwrites otherwise.

12 - Global Tweaks & Improvements

12.1 Mix-Mod [Independent]except that 8. Turn off Startup Movies for IWD1/2 BG2/Tutu PST does not seem to work on EasyTutu... Miloch's Note: Mix-Mod's Disable Startup Movies should work if you install it on both Tutu and BG2 (or use this version).
12.2 SimDing0's D0TweaksPPG
Just Enhanced Goodberries, Sensible Lore, and Summons Trigger Traps components
12.3 Refinements SHS
Just Shapeshifting fix; different from BG2 Tweak Pack and TutuFix versions
12.4iiItem[TBG]may actually be best placed after BG2 Tweaks - should definitely be placed after anything that adds stores or items
12.5iiProjectile Retrieval Mod[TBG]
12.6iiTweak[TBG]Some overlapping between BG2 Tweak Pack and this mod - please read documentation of both mods carefully if you install both
12.7iiLearn Through Use Mod[TBG]
12.8Spell System Adjustment Mod [TBG](is this the best place in the order, igi?)
12.9 Rogue Rebalancing v3.9 Rogue Rebalancing mod is fully compatible with Tutu (and Easy TuTu) for any versions above v3.7.
Any components of RR which rely on BG2 areas or characters (i.e. the Chosen of Cyric Encounter) will be automatically skipped during the installation process. For quick reference, here's a list of Rogue Rebalancing components which are fully compatible with Tutu:

• Proper dual-wielding implementation for Thieves and Bards
• Thief kit revisions
• Bard kit revisions
• Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards
• Revised Thievery

The following components are not suitable for TuTu and are automatically skipped during the installation process if TuTu is detected:

• Bard High Level Ability revisions
• Proper spell progression for Bards
• Chosen of Cyric encounter
• Shadow Thief improvements

12.10 Ashes of Embers [PPG] (removes class weapon restrictions, adds kits/armor)
(Note: maximum 9 kits per class; thus, some may overwrite or conflict with others - please be selective and keep track of what you install. Other mods down the list add kits too...)
[12 FLOATING] Level 1 NPCs v1 [G3 ] can be installed at any point, but for the purposes of keeping the NPCs you change from being repatched or replaced by other mods, right before BG2 Tweaks or SCS seems indicated. More testing for optimal install order needed.
12.11 BG2 Tweak Pack [G3] Strongly Recommended (Detects and installs appropriate components for Tutu: do not let its name fool you! This is is the replacement for the G3 Tutu Tweaks. You must read the documentation before installing.)
Make Montaron an Assassin - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply
Make Khalid a Fighter/Mage - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply
12.12 Sword Coast Strategems v8 [G3] (should go after BG2 Tweaks: To clarify this: you can install SCS and the Khalid/Monty improvements in either order and it won't break the game. But if you want the choose-proficiencies component of SCS to apply to the modified Khalid/Monty, you need to install them before SCS. TweakPack overwrites the old versions of Khalid and Monty with new CRE files, so it removes the set-them-to-level-zero changes imposed by SCS)
12.13 EasyTutu Spawn Randomizer [USO] (can go anywhere, but is a likely candidate for uninstall/reinstall with different spawn percentages)

SPECIAL CASES:
Drizzt Is Not Stupid USO(can go anywhere, and looks like it will work with everything, but is untested in different install orders.

World Map v6.5 (revised .tp2 from forum)
SHS is compatible with Tutu v4, but not with EasyTutu. It should be placed later in the install order judging by the ReadMe, but we have not yet had any direct recommendations from testing.

FINAL - Always Completely Last In Install Order, GUI changes
GUI 1.0 TutuGUI [PPG] and the related Setup-TutuGUIFONT.exe found in the forums afterwards.
GUI 1.1 Widescreen Mod [G3]
NOTE: If you install the TutuGUI and Widescreen on the same install, there will be some graphical issues. Please see the Widescreen forums for more information.

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Mac OS X : Compatible Mods & Fixes

1 - Mac Tutu v4 "Core Install"
1.1 Baldurs Gate I full install using BG1TutuAssistant [LQ], fully patched if not using TOTSC [GraphSim]
1.2 Recommended: Tales of the Sword Coast, no need to patch
1.3 Baldurs Gate II - SoA full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.4 Recommended: Baldurs Gate II - ToB full install, fully patched [MacPlay]
1.5 Expected: Baldurdash of BG1 and BG2 Fix Pack [G3] of BG2 OR Baldurdash of both installations
1.6 Convert to Tutu v4 [PPG]
1.7 Tutu Fixpack[Loriel]
all components except Do not install #11 // Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...
* Walking Speeds is ok, but Note: unanticipated side effects of this component: may be better at the end of the whole installation after Tweaks but before GUI
1.8 OS X EasyTutu Degreenifier (this mod is confirmed to also be compatible with conventional Tutu)
1.9 Then start at 5 in the Windows list.
1 - MacEasyTutu "Core Install"
1.1 Baldurs Gate I & Tales of the Sword Coast full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel], no need to patch, as it is already the latest version available
1.2 Baldurs Gate II - SoA full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.3 Recommended: Baldurs Gate II - ToB full install, fully patched [MacPlay]
1.4 Implement OSX TutuCore ToB or OSX TutuCore SoA, see MacEasyTutu for details
1.5 Tutu Fixpack (v17 or later) [PPG] all actual components are optional, however the install script must be run once to allow executable to be patched.
* BG2 Ammo Stacks
* Totemic Druid Spirit Summons are Balanced
* BG1 Summoning Spells
* Hooded unarmoured avatars and hooded bards
* Walking Speeds Note: unanticipated side effects of this component: may be better at the end of the whole installation after Tweaks but before GUI, or not installed
Do not install #11 // Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2
If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...[/
1.6 OS X EasyTutu Degreenifier (this mod is confirmed to also be compatible with conventional Tutu) [USO]
1.7 OS X EasyTutu NPC Kits [USO]
1.8 OS X EasyTutu Spawns [USO]
1.9 OS X EasyTutu Hotfixes (if available) [USO]
1.10 Then start at 5 in the Windows list.

The remaining list of mods found under the Windows version list are generally available and working for OS X.


TEST SECTION: PLEASE HELP REPORT ON THESE.

Miloch's Notes:

• Currently, most of the available Chosen of Mystra Forge/Adventure mods are Tutu-incompatible, aimed squarely at BG1. Please visit those forums to enhance your original BG1 game, and check back often. Ascension64 and Miloch are working on making mods there Tutu compatible.
• The BG1 Adventure mod installs successfully in Tutu, but modifies BG2 areas on the Tutu install. Incompatible!
• There may be more new mods - in particular, any BG2 kit mods should work with Tutu in theory (e.g. Geomantic Sorcerer).

From igi:

The following mods will potentially work with Tutu. igi is willing to make them compatible if someone discovers that they are not:

• iiKey Names Mod [not sure if this is really needed - do we have any BG1 keys?]

PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Drizzt saga, WeiDU version http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showforum=103


PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Victor's Improvements Pack version 1.9 for BG2 (4 components)
Components in mod install order:
1. Victor's Improved Races component
2. Victor's Wizards Know Better (have more Lore) component
3. Faithful Rogue Kit
6. The Burning Man kit
http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showtopic=1219


PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A FIRST AND SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Runored: BP might be installable on Tutu for AI scripting. Need confirmation and information, plus links.

from cmorgan:

- the SHS Soundsets should work, if someone can test and provide links;
- the SP soundsets should work, if someone can test and provide links;
- Mulgore & Xavia NPCs (independent) for BGT is about to release as a combined BGT/Tutu installer; this version is the recommended one, working on Tutu installs.


APPENDIX - Depreciated Mods

This list consists of Tutu mods which have been updated, replaced, and are no longer part of a regular stable install of Tutu.

• Ease of Use. Replaced by 12.9, BG2 Tweaks.
• G3 Tutu Tweaks. Replaced by 12.9, BG2 Tweaks.
• Jastey's SlimeQuest. No longer available. All content included in 6.1, Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters Modification.
• HardenCoonor's Tutu Addon. Download location here: http://www.rosenranken.de/index.php?action...n=mods;cat=tosc. Content given to Unfinished Business for Tutu/BGT and other mods.

This post has been edited by cmorgan: Dec 8 2008, 12:32 PM

[cmorgan]

For commentary, questions, discussion, additions, feedback, etc., please go to
this post.

(update, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 -cmorgan)

[cmorgan]

Frebruary, 2009 - Still to revise/update:


2 B.0 Tutu v4 for non-english language installs

Tutu v4 directly modifies your BG2 install, and must be uninstalled if you wish to play BG2 on the same install. It is primarily useful if you are using a non-english language distribution, or if you want to use non-WeiDU mods that require you to install them before converting to Tutu. EasyTutu is much more stable and incorporates many fixes and organized Journal entries. Do not use this unless you absolutely have to for language reasons or legacy mod reasons. Tutu v4 is no longer in development.

2 B.1 Install Baldurdash GTU Game Text Update on your BG install (If you want). If you want to, add its related fix components, but all of those fixes are repaired by the next entry,
2 B.2 Install BG2 FixPack [G3] on BG2 (highly recommended.)
2 B.3 Convert your BG2 install using Tutu v4 [PPG]
2 B.4 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO] Confirmed working with Tutu v4 as well as EasyTutu
2 A.5 TutuFix [PPG] (required, mandatory, you must install the core components if you are using v4):
Core Component/Fixes




Mac OS X : Compatible Mods & Fixes

[edit in progress ]


Mac OSX: Installed Before Tutu Conversion

Tutu or EastTutu Installation, Core Files

1 - Core Program Files	Comments
1.1 Baldurs Gate	full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel] (if not using TOTSC, [GraphSim])
1.2 Tales of the Sword Coast	full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel] (TOTSC needs no patching)
1.3 Baldurs Gate II - SoA	full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.4 Baldurs Gate II - ToB	full install, fully patched [MacPlay]

BG1NPC on Mac OSX: This comprehensive mod includes fixes to match many Tutu v4 install quirks, but for the best experience EasyTutu is recommended. It is compatible with most other Tutu mods in different install orders, as long as AI and Tweak mods follow at the end of the installation. A reminder that the Player Initiated Dialogues component must be installed last in this mod. The installer will uninstall PIDs if you change dialogue components, and then ask you to reinstall the PID component at the end. Because it includes fixes and repairs, this mod combines the functions of Fixpack, Quest, NPC, Item, and Graphic mods.

FOR MAC: fixed-for-OS X version of the 1PP mod is available for download here.


1 - Mac Tutu v4 "Core Install"
1.1 Baldurs Gate I full install using BG1TutuAssistant [LQ], fully patched if not using TOTSC [GraphSim]
1.2 Recommended: Tales of the Sword Coast, no need to patch
1.3 Baldurs Gate II - SoA full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.4 Recommended: Baldurs Gate II - ToB full install, fully patched [MacPlay]
1.5 Expected: Baldurdash of BG1 and BG2 Fix Pack [G3] of BG2 OR Baldurdash of both installations
1.6 Convert to Tutu v4 [PPG]
1.7 Tutu Fixpack[Loriel]
all components except Do not install #11 // Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...
* Walking Speeds is ok, but Note: unanticipated side effects of this component: may be better at the end of the whole installation after Tweaks but before GUI
1.8 OS X EasyTutu Degreenifier (this mod is confirmed to also be compatible with conventional Tutu)
1.9 Then start at 5 in the Windows list.
1 - MacEasyTutu "Core Install"
1.1 Baldurs Gate I & Tales of the Sword Coast full install using BG1TutuAssistant [Loriel], no need to patch, as it is already the latest version available
1.2 Baldurs Gate II - SoA full install, fully patched if not using ToB [MacPlay]
1.3 Recommended: Baldurs Gate II - ToB full install, fully patched [MacPlay]
1.4 Implement OSX TutuCore ToB or OSX TutuCore SoA, see MacEasyTutu for details
1.5 Tutu Fixpack (v17 or later) [PPG] all actual components are optional, however the install script must be run once to allow executable to be patched.
* BG2 Ammo Stacks
* Totemic Druid Spirit Summons are Balanced
* BG1 Summoning Spells
* Hooded unarmoured avatars and hooded bards
* Walking Speeds Note: unanticipated side effects of this component: may be better at the end of the whole installation after Tweaks but before GUI, or not installed
Do not install #11 // Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2
If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...[/
1.6 OS X EasyTutu Degreenifier (this mod is confirmed to also be compatible with conventional Tutu) [USO]
1.7 OS X EasyTutu NPC Kits [USO]
1.8 OS X EasyTutu Spawns [USO]
1.9 OS X EasyTutu Hotfixes (if available) [USO]
1.10 Then start at 5 in the Windows list.

The remaining list of mods found under the Windows version list are generally available and working for OS X.



If you use Tutu v4, your Tutu install directory is BGII - SoA . In order to play BG2, you will have to move a transition save out, uninstall Tutu, and then mod BG2 appropriately before transitioning (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character).

[cmorgan]

Update in Progress, February, 2009

EasyTutu and Tutu Mod Compatibility and Install Order

This post is a summary of discussions at various IE forums across the web, gathered by Miloch, Gorilym, CamDawg, berelinde, and cmorgan. It relies on you, the reader, to provide feedback and help us keep the list both accurate and up to date; please post comments in the appropriate discussion post.

This is not an endorsement list; players are encouraged to visit the forums and read the ReadMe files for information before installing anything . This is strictly an evaluated list of mod install order and compatibility (Carrying on in Icelus' fine tradition of comprehensive, clear information, we hope!).

Please post your player notes on compatibility for any currently unevaluated mods. We can include your mod in the list when someone has made it through a game with your mod installed, so if your mod is not here, please check it and post below. The thread following contains research notes from fellow players regarding *compatibility*, not an evaluation of content.
The list is broken into Windows and Mac OS X compatibility lists. We do not yet have any compatibility information for Linux installs.

Last Update: Sunday, February 1, 2009

Color Map:
Green = compatible, tested.
Yellow = somewhat compatible; read the ReadMe carefully and select components carefully.
Red = unknown compatibility, untested, or incompatible. Little or no forum data available. Please report.

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Recommendation for "core install" on all platforms is BG, TOTSC, BG2, and TOB full install, fully patched. Please make sure your install is "custom" or "full".

Windows: Installed Before Tutu Conversion

Tutu or EastTutu Installation, Core Files

1 - Core Program Files	Comments
1.1 Baldur's Gate [Bioware]	full install, "custom" (patch if no TotSC)
1.2 Tales of the Sword Coast [Bioware]	(patch if not in "The Original Saga" package)
1.3 Baldur's Gate II - Shadows of Amn [Bioware]	full install (patch if no ToB)
1.4 Baldur's Gate II - Throne of Bhaal [Bioware]	full install (patch if not latest version, DVD release)

Backup and Tweaking

Conversion Preparation

Test Vanilla Install and Set Graphics
Run Baldurs gate and Baldur's Gate - SoA once to set graphics. See the bigg's posts on SHS, G3, and PPG regarding modern graphics cards.
Edit baldur.ini for debugging and CLUAConsole
browse to your BGII game directory, find the file: baldur.ini, and add the line: Debug Mode=1
Create Backups for simple reversion to a clean install
A: Copy your installed BG and BG2 folders onto any backup media
OR
B: .rar, .zip, or otherwise archive your full core installations, so that you can easily revert without a complete reinstall.
OR
C: Visit the PPG instructions on creating smaller backups
Create virtual drive/ISO if wanted
Prepare CD ISO or virtual drive if you would like to prevent extra wear and tear on your disks (instructions not yet prepared)
Get Latest Version of WeiDU
Download the latest version of WeiDU for Windows or OSX and extract it someplace safe, outside of your game directory, so that it is available when you are ready to add mods later on.

Choice of Conversion
At this point, you have two basic choices for Tutu ("BG To Two") conversion: Tutu v4, or EasyTutu.
(Note: Recommendation is *not* to use the unreleased-but-still-available-if-you-poke-around-in-dark-corners Tutu v5 or Tutu v6, as they are both unstable and increment chapters differently, clobbering Tutu mods.)

The most complete, bugfixed, and stable version of Tutu is Macready's EasyTutu_ToB. Second rank, for those for whom ToB is unavailable, is Macready's EasyTutu_SoA.

2 - Tutu Conversion

EasyTutu for english language installs.

EasyTutu_TOB is the preferred Tutu base for standard english language installations. While most mods support use of just BG and SoA, the most complete install possible is preferable. Since it creates a new directory, gathers resources from both BG and BG2, and extracts a stable tested bugfixed override folder, you can mod the original games to your heart's content after the conversion. If you are using EasyTutu, you have three completely separate games. EasyTutu comes pre-Baldurdashed, pre-BG2 Fixpacked, Baldurdash - Game Text Updated, Journal Entry Behavior repaired, and is the most stable version currently available for Tutu. Macready's newest EasyTutu_ToB and EasyTutu_SoA use the BG2 spell system. Basically, this is the highest level of Tutu platform completeion available.

Installation Order for EasyTutu ToB or SoA

Tutu Conversion
2 A EasyTutu_ToB or if you have no ToB, EasyTutu_SoA [USO]	NOTE: YOUR GAME DIRECTORY IS DIFFERENT AFTER INSTALLING EASYTUTU. Older mods may say "install to your BGII - SoA Directory". EasyTutu creates a separate, stand-alone game and a default directory of c:\BaldursGateTutu. This is your new Tutu game directory, and where you should install all mods for your Tutu game.
WeiDU Update Preparation	from latest WeiDu version available
WeiDU ("BiggDU") WO	Browse to the folder: WeiDU and find the file: weidu.exe. Copy this file into your Tutu game directory (probably c:\BaldursGateTutu\). Rename it setup-latest.exe or any name that will remind you what the version is, so updating agian is easier. Do not run this .exe - WeiDU will be able to auto-update each mod you add to your install from this point forward to the latest WeiDU version.
Tutu Basic Cleanup and Tweaking
2 B.1 EasyTutu Hotfixes [USO]	CHECK TO SEE IF NEEDED - Macready may put out a special hotfix as he finds things between big releases. Currently, there are none!
2 B.2 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO]
2 B.3 EasyTutu NPC Kits [USO]
Tutu Pre-Mod Adjustments
3.1 TutuFix [PPG]	TutuFix detects EasyTutu and will skip the Core Fixes component as they are already included in EasyTutu.)
Component:	BG2 Ammo Stacks
Component:	Balanced Totemic Druid Spirit Summons
Component:	BG1 Summoning Spells
Component:	Hooded Unarmored Avatars & Bards
Do Not Install:	Remove Spells That Weren't In BG2 (causes crashes) If you see this, you seriously need to upgrade your TutuFix package...
Do Not Install:	Walking Speeds (strange behaviors on slow, haste, etc.) - This component is better off being installed at the end during BG2 Tweaks, as BG2 Tweaks now has a similar more robust component.
4 - Sound Mods
4.1 Original BG1 Music [PPG forum discussion]	In Tutu v4: rename Tutu v4 Music folder Music-BG2, and copy BG1 Music folder from BG1 install directory to Tutu v4 directory. Not needed in EasyTutu . EasyTutu uses the BG music automatically.
4.2 Restored BG1 Casting Sounds [PPG]
4.3 Restored Textscreen Music [SHS]
SPECIAL	baseline changing mod
Hard Times Mod [USO]	This modifies base EasyTutu and should come before additional modding.
5 - Item/Store/Other Dependencies Mods
5.0 Herbs & Potions Add-In [BWL]
5.1 Song and Silence [G3]	Note: also contains optional expansion of kits.
5.2 Vedran's Lost Items [SHS]	Ascension64 has rebuilt this for Tutu/BGT
6 - Quest Mods
6.1 Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters Modification G3	This includes Jastey's "Slime Quest" plus several other mini quests.
6.2 Grey Clan Episode I [BWL]
6.3 Sirine's Call Quest for Tutu and BGT [PPG]
6.4 Stone of Askavar [COM]	Currently, you will need to edit the tp2 manually to allow uninstallation and use the Tutu Area patch. Some mod added items only use BG proficiencies.
6.5 Secret of Bone Hill [IEGMC]	(aka SoBH): currently being adjusted here; check forums for updates and information
7 - Comprehensive Mods and Related Tweaks
7.1 BG1UB V6 for Tutu/BGT[PPG]	This comprehensive mod includes fixes and restorations, some of which patch materials other mods use.
	BG1 Unfinished Business for Tutu detects The BG1 NPC Project and automatically skip incompatible materials if you install it secons instead of first. If you plan on installing both BG1NPC and BG1UB for Tutu/BGT, do not install the following UB components:
	Angelo Notices Shar-Teel
	Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest
	Coran and the Wyverns
	Kivan and Tazok
	Branwen and Tranzig
7.2 BG1 NPC Project v16 [G3]	Compatible with most other Tutu mods in different install orders, as long as AI and Tweak mods follow at the end of the installation.
	A reminder that the Player Initiated Dialogues component must be installed last in this mod. The installer will uninstall PIDs if you change dialogue components, and then ask you to reinstall the PID component at the end. Because it includes fixes and repairs, this mod combines the functions of Fixpack, Quest, NPC, Item, and Graphic mods.
7.2 BG1 NPC Music Pack [G3]
7.3 Xan's BG1 Alternate Soundset[PPG]	XanBG2Voice.exe works fine when installed after BG1 NPC Project.
7.4 Xan's BG1 Friendship Talks [PPG]	Just like Xan's Voiceset, this mod actually could go many places, but we might as well keep all his install components together
7.5 Coran's Friendship[G3]	Is just as independent as Xan, but the elves like to stick together.
8 - NPC Mods
8.1 Mulgore/Xavia NPCs [SHS]	The new version for Tutu and BGT is found at SHS and is fully compatible.
8.2 Finch NPC [PPG]	See forums for a bugfix or two, though.
8.3 Indira NPC [PPG]
8.4 Mur'Neth NPC [G3]
8.5 Gavin [G3]
8.6 Jonathan v0.2.1 [Independent]
9 - Graphical Mods
If you are installing both of these, place Moinesse's Avatars before One Pixel Productions.	For the rest, any order will do - some modify add-in NPCs, some will overwrite others. In general, last installed is the one that wins, if contents conflict!
Moinesse's Avatars [G3]
One Pixel Productions [SHS]	v2, + patches, or full weidu package v2.# which installs v2 and patches. Note: The special fixes and prereleases work in Tutu; go to the forums for special install instructions and order of applying patches to upgrade your v2 with pre-release v3 content. Better yet, use the WeiDu "full version" package.
BG1 NPC Portrait Pack [G3]
Plasmocat's "Picks of the Litter" Portraits [G3]
Plasmocat's "BG NPC Portraits in BG2 Style" [G3]
JPS Portrait Pack [G3]
Baldur's Goth for Tutu v1 [IEGMC/SHS]	Compatible with the exception of Fabio, who is a SoBH NPC (see above).
Baldur's Goth II v3.1 [IEGMC/SHS]	there are two very similar files on the Wizard's Mirror: GTBGT_v3.1.rar and TuTu_BGoth.rar. Install the GTBGT_v3.1.rar if you want to use this mod for Tutu. No fix pending currently. Tutu version will throw errors.
Improved BAMs [G3]
Alternative BG1 Portraits Mod [TBG]
Blonde Imoen [G3]	Blonde Imoen is not Tutu-compatible without some manual hackery.
10 - AI/Scripting Mods
10.1 eSeries Scripts [G3]	v1.8 includes BP Detectable Stats/Detectable Spells content, so needs no DS. May need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums
10.2 gMinion Scripts [G3]	may need tweaking on a non-ToB base install: see forums
10.3 Yovaneth's Saga Scripts v2.3 [sgSeries][SHS]
11 - Kit/Spell Mods	(Note: maximum 9 kits visible per class, and some may overwrite or conflict with others - please be selective and keep track of what you install.)
11.1 Wild Mage[IEGMC]
11.2 Orc Scout Kit [IEGMC]
11.3 Sorceror's Place Collection [G3]	but not Creslyn's Item Pack (BG2 only)
11.4 Oversight [G3]	Compatible: Holy Liberator Paladin kit, Altered Spells, Cleric Kits (just the alignment changes for kit priests) only
11.5 Sword and Fist [G3]
11.6 Divine Remix [G3]
11.7 RTTKitpack v1.12 [SHS]
11.8 Arcane/Divine Pack[IEGMC	Compatible on installs without Devine Remix or other AI, Spell Revision style mods, etc. Needs additional testing. Tweaks many mage and cleric spells. Appears to add a "spell restoration" scroll to your PC to correct spellbook entries you shouldn't have.
12 - Global Tweaks & Improvements
12.1 Mix-Mod [Independent]	except that 8. Turn off Startup Movies for IWD1/2 BG2/Tutu PST does not seem to work on EasyTutu... Miloch's Note: Mix-Mod's Disable Startup Movies should work if you install it on both Tutu and BG2 (or use this version).
12.2 SimDing0's D0TweaksPPG	Just Enhanced Goodberries, Bigg's Improved Backstabbing, Sensible Lore, and Summons Trigger Traps components
12.3 Refinements SHS	Just Shapeshifting fix; different from BG2 Tweak Pack and TutuFix versions.
12.4iiItem[TBG]	may actually be best placed after BG2 Tweaks - should definitely be placed after anything that adds stores or items
12.5iiProjectile Retrieval Mod[TBG]
12.6iiTweak[TBG]	Some overlapping between BG2 Tweak Pack and this mod - please read documentation of both mods carefully if you install both.
12.7iiLearn Through Use Mod[TBG]
12.8Spell System Adjustment Mod [TBG]	(is this the best place in the order, igi?)
12.9 Rogue Rebalancing Rogue Rebalancing mod	Fully compatible with Tutu (and Easy TuTu) for any versions above v3.7. Any components of RR which rely on BG2 areas or characters (i.e. the Chosen of Cyric Encounter) will be automatically skipped during the installation process. aVENGER maintains one of the most comprehensive compatibility guides anywhere, right here.
12.10 aTweaks SHS
12.11 Full Plate and Packing Steel [G3]	Armour revisions mod.
12.11 Ashes of Embers [PPG] (removes class weapon restrictions, adds kits/armor)	Note: maximum 9 kits per class; thus, some may overwrite or conflict with others - please be selective and keep track of what you install. Other mods down the list add kits too... The "Sensible Weapon Restrictions for MODS" component of Ashes of Embers needs to be installed after mods that add items.
12.12 BG2 Tweak Pack [G3]	Strongly Recommended (Detects and installs appropriate components for Tutu: do not let its name fool you! This is is the replacement for the G3 Tutu Tweaks. You must read the documentation before installing.) Make Montaron an Assassin - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply Make Khalid a Fighter/Mage - .cre overwrites, so changes before now will not apply
12.13 Sword Coast Strategems [G3]	Should go after BG2 Tweaks. To clarify this: you can install SCS and the Khalid/Monty improvements in either order and it won't break the game. But if you want the choose-proficiencies component of SCS to apply to the modified Khalid/Monty, you need to install them before SCS. TweakPack overwrites the old versions of Khalid and Monty with new CRE files, so it removes the set-them-to-level-zero changes imposed by SCS.
12.14 EasyTutu Spawn Randomizer [USO]	Can go anywhere, but is a likely candidate for uninstall/reinstall with different spawn percentages.
Special Cases	Out-of-order or other
[12 FLOATING] Level 1 NPCs [G3 ]	Can be installed at any point, but for the purposes of keeping the NPCs you change from being repatched or replaced by other mods, close to the end off the install is expected. Games have successfully been completed with placement right before and right after BG2 Tweaks and/or SCS. As it is likely to be a mod that you rerun, probably last before GUI is indicated.
[ANYWHERE] Drizzt Is Not Stupid USO	This can go anywhere, and looks like it will work with everything.
[ANYWHERE] SHS PC Soundsets SHS	This can go anywhere, and will work with everything.
World Map v6.7 and greater SHS	It should be placed last in the install order judging by the ReadMe, but we have not yet had any direct recommendations from testing. Definitely check the forums for more information.
WoundedLion's Morrow Gate RPG Forums	Works on Tutu, but not comprehensively tested. As with many tweak mods, late in the install order, and be sure you aren't using several mods that patch the same behaviors!
At End of Install - Graphical (GUI) Changes	Comments
color=green]LadeJarl's TutuGUI[/color] [PPG]	This and the related Setup-TutuGUIFONT.exe found in the forums afterwards give you the BG GUI.
GUI.2 Widescreen Mod [G3]	If you install the TutuGUI and Widescreen on the same install, there will be some graphical issues. Please see the Widescreen forums for more information.

Your Tutu install directory is BaldursGateTutu. You may delete BG1 and BG2 if you want, and mod on EasyTutu; or (recommended) you can leave your BG2 install and mod it for your eventual transition to BG2 (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character). Older mods will ask you to install into BGII - SoA - you need to ignore that and use your Tutu install directory instead.


OR (if you have to)


2 B.0 Tutu v4 for non-english language installs

Tutu v4 directly modifies your BG2 install, and must be uninstalled if you wish to play BG2 on the same install. It is primarily useful if you are using a non-english language distribution, or if you want to use non-WeiDU mods that require you to install them before converting to Tutu. EasyTutu is much more stable and incorporates many fixes and organized Journal entries. Do not use this unless you absolutely have to for language reasons or legacy mod reasons. Tutu v4 is no longer in development.

2 B.1 Install Baldurdash GTU Game Text Update on your BG install (If you want). If you want to, add its related fix components, but all of those fixes are repaired by the next entry,
2 B.2 Install BG2 FixPack [G3] on BG2 (highly recommended.)
2 B.3 Convert your BG2 install using Tutu v4 [PPG]
2 B.4 EasyTutu Degreenifier [USO] Confirmed working with Tutu v4 as well as EasyTutu
2 A.5 TutuFix [PPG] (required, mandatory, you must install the core components if you are using v4):
Core Component/Fixes

If you use Tutu v4, your Tutu install directory is BGII - SoA . In order to play BG2, you will have to move a transition save out, uninstall Tutu, and then mod BG2 appropriately before transitioning (moving a savegame over and importing your Tutu character).



At this point, both Tutu v4 and EasyTutu are ready to play. If you would like to add more mods to your experience, then you can continue below; otherwise, just enjoy the BG content as it unfolds in the BG2 engine.

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Mac OS X : Compatible Mods & Fixes

[edit in progress ]

TEST SECTION: PLEASE HELP REPORT ON THESE.

Miloch's Notes:

Currently, most of the available Chosen of Mystra Forge/Adventure mods are Tutu-incompatible, aimed squarely at BG1. Please visit those forums to enhance your original BG1 game, and check back often. Ascension64 and Miloch are working on making mods there Tutu compatible.
The BG1 Adventure mod installs successfully in Tutu, but modifies BG2 areas on the Tutu install. Incompatible!
There may be more new mods - in particular, any BG2 kit mods should work with Tutu in theory (e.g. Geomantic Sorcerer).

From igi:

The following mods will potentially work with Tutu. igi is willing to make them compatible if someone discovers that they are not:

iiKey Names Mod [not sure if this is really needed - do we have any BG1 keys?]

PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Drizzt saga, WeiDU version http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showforum=103


PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Victor's Improvements Pack version 1.9 for BG2 (4 components)
Components in mod install order:
1. Victor's Improved Races component
2. Victor's Wizards Know Better (have more Lore) component
3. Faithful Rogue Kit
6. The Burning Man kit
http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showtopic=1219

PLEASE CONFIRM - NEED A FIRST AND SECOND PERSON TO CONFIRM IT WORKS!
Rumored: BP might be installable on Tutu for AI scripting. Need confirmation and information, plus links.

from cmorgan:

- the SP soundsets should work, if someone can test and provide links.

Depreciated Mods

Tutu mods which have been:	updated, replaced, or are no longer part of a regular stable install of Tutu.
upgraded: Ease of Use	Replaced by BG2 Tweaks, with all content moved into that mod.
upgraded: G3 Tutu Tweaks	Replaced by BG2 Tweaks, with all content moved into that mod.
upgraded: Jastey's SlimeQuest	Replaced by Baldur's Gate Mini Quests and Encounters Modification, with all content moved into that mod.
upgraded: HardenCoonor's Tutu Addon	Replaced by Unfinished Business for Tutu/BGT, with all content moved into that mod. Original mod will not be compatible with most modern mods.
Warrior Kitpack [BWL] - removed from distribution	Available via PM to the author.