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#1 leania

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:39 AM

Hello, I wanna start new topic, which is related with Paladins.

I think Paladins are quite balanced class, but I have some opinion for it.

As you know, There are two powerful weapons for Paladins; The first one is Carsomyr which is very famous for BG users, and the second one is Unholy Reaver which is a sort of evil Carsomyr.

Unholy Reaver +5
Equipped Abilities:
Magic Resistance: +25% bonus
Combat Abilities:
Dispel: removes all magical effects upon the target (save vs. spell neg.)
Unholy: deals additional damage against creatures of good alignment

THAC0: +5 bonus
Damage: 2D6 + 5, +5 vs. good creatures
Usable By:
Anti-paladin

Only fallen paladins can use the sword, however, as you know, fallen paladins are just the weakest warriors that lost all of their personalities. So I think one of kits (Imo Undead Hunter is suitable) would be better to be changed as anti-paladin though It's not 'revision'.

What do you think about it?

Edited by Demivrgvs, 12 June 2012 - 05:04 AM.


#2 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 04:21 AM

View Postleania, on 22 December 2011 - 01:39 AM, said:

What do you think about it?
Well, there's already an Anti-paladin kit in the TDD and it's inherited kit packs ... and the term comes from the encounter where the Githyanki try to get the silver blade and drop this, and originally it's not usable by anyone.
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#3 leania

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:07 AM

View PostJarno Mikkola, on 22 December 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

View Postleania, on 22 December 2011 - 01:39 AM, said:

What do you think about it?
Well, there's already an Anti-paladin kit in the TDD and it's inherited kit packs ... and the term comes from the encounter where the Githyanki try to get the silver blade and drop this, and originally it's not usable by anyone.

Yea, I know the original Unholy Reaver can't use anyone... But Demi makes it to be used by fallen paladins. That's why I thought Anti-paladin needs.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:40 PM

Due to engine limitations, any paladin/ranger falls if reputation goes below 9. While it is arguable that evil characters want low reputation, I can't imagine a blackguard to fall because of that :unsure:
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:55 PM

PC paladins fall when the reputation goes below 9. I found out the other day that Keldorn will leave (at a rep far below 9) before he falls. Apparently, NPC paladins are immune to falling.
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#6 leania

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:58 AM

Finally BGEE added Blackguard kit! :D

Now we can give Unholy Reaver +5 for him...

Edited by leania, 27 July 2012 - 07:58 AM.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:06 PM

View Postleania, on 27 July 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Finally BGEE added Blackguard kit! :D

Now we can give Unholy Reaver +5 for him...
LOL. Btw, now I'm really curious to know how they will handle the whole "fallen/evil paladin" thing. Do they removed the current hardcoded behaviour? OR is the Blackguard going to be a fighter kit? We'll see.

On a side note, I really hope they fix the Monk class too considering one of the new NPCs belongs to that class. Right now it's a buggy hardcoded mess (e.g. Monk's AC is handled in a way which ruins the use of Bracers of Armor).

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

Could they of created Blackguard as a new class instead of making a Blackguard a "Kit"? If not, I would think Fighter would have to be the base class the kit falls under.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

View PostBlades of Vanatar, on 03 August 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

Could they of created Blackguard as a new class instead of making a Blackguard a "Kit"? If not, I would think Fighter would have to be the base class the kit falls under.
Yeah, my best bet is that they made it as a Fighter kit, but it's far from an optimal solution (e.g. no spellcasting) thus I do hope they'll surprise me in some way.




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