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#1 Lunever

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:03 AM

I'm familiar with BG-Tutu and BG-Trilogy, IWD1 and IWD2, and also had a short glance into Icewind Gate II (though I can't play it since the initial cut scene loops endlessly).
Of all these games imho BG2 hast the best story and plot, and IWD1 has the best RPG engine (the 3E engine of IWD2 has to few character options compared to paper&pen imho).

So I wonder, has there ever been a port of the BG I+II content to the IWD1 engine?
Because that is what I would prefer above every other mod.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:25 AM

So I wonder, has there ever been a port of the BG I+II content to the IWD1 engine?
Because that is what I would prefer above every other mod.


The major issue is that the IWD1 version of the engine can't handle NPCs, that's why people have focused on porting to the BG2 version of the Infinity Engine
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:31 AM

Of all these games imho BG2 hast the best story and plot, and IWD1 has the best RPG engine ...

It's really not, for one thing, it doesn't even have the ability add NPCs to the party. Nor does the IWDII's engine...

IWD2 can not handle joinable PC's or inter-party dialog very well ...

The IwD I has the same issues as the IwDII...

So I wonder, has there ever been a port of the BG I+II content to the IWD1 engine?

That's quite impossible. But the reverse is somewhat well on it's way already.

You can of course proof us wrong, but... and that's a big 'but'.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 25 July 2011 - 07:32 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:14 AM

Ok, no NPCs is a big difference indeed.

So, does any mod for BG2 exist, that utilizes the wonderful 2-weapon quickslots from IWD?

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:49 AM

yes, something like that, done with some clever scripting. I don't recall the name though.

btw, what do you like so much about the iwd (you probably mean how) engine?

Edited by lynx, 25 July 2011 - 08:50 AM.

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#6 Lunever

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 10:16 AM

yes, something like that, done with some clever scripting. I don't recall the name though.

btw, what do you like so much about the iwd (you probably mean how) engine?


Small interface stuff like that. I favour multiclass fighter/thieves. In BG2 I can can have a Paladin switch with just 1 quickslot mouseclick from a longbow to a halberd, but I cannot make my thief quickly switch from shortbow to 2 shortswords, except by pausing the game in multiplayer mode and do manually via the inventory. That's a main point for me. It's a long time since I last player IWD1, but I remember that there was a number small interface stuff that made me think, that the engine had improved somewhat, I just felt the story was to streamlined.

So if anyone rememebers or finds such a mod, I'd be very glad indeed!

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 01:27 PM

what you speak of was available only in iwd2; multiclass fighter/thieves are available in all the games.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:10 AM

in iwd2; multiclass fighter/thieves are available in all the games.

Strictly if we look, there's no multiclasses in the IwDII, it's just redo-able dual classing(or actually it's combine-classing).
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Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:25 AM

"I'm familiar with BG-Tutu and BG-Trilogy, IWD1 and IWD2, and also had a short glance into Icewind Gate II (though I can't play it since the initial cut scene loops endlessly)."
Was that the Beta version or the Delta version. I am playing the latter and am close to Suldanesselar?
"It's really not, for one thing, it doesn't even have the ability add NPCs to the party. Nor does the IWDII's engine..."
NPCs in Icewind Gate 2 seem to work OK. You allow them to join, you Export their character file, you hit C key, you delete them then you import them via the file.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 05:29 PM

It seems that NPCs in IWG2 may cause annoying slow-downs in scrolling, in certain areas only.
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:09 AM

Can you post a link to the details please?

It seems that NPCs in IWG2 may cause annoying slow-downs in scrolling, in certain areas only.
I think you can create them yourself, I am detailing methods in the Social Bioware forum.



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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:45 PM

Here is one link, the Social Bioware forum:
http://social.biowar...index/7672165/4
This forum has no absolute number system for identifying individual posts, no dates and no "Reply #".
The other forum is Boards of Magic:
http://www.sorcerers...d...5387&page=3
Here you are looking for Reply #54.

Solution is to create normal IWD2 PCs then use Near Infinity to give them the dialog and personality of the original BG2 NPCs, this is explained in the two posts.

Edited by Ishad Nha, 14 November 2011 - 11:47 PM.




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