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[Jarno Mikkola]

guest1, on Dec 8 2010, 06:10 PM, said:

Does it make sense to you?

To me it does, see, you can install the mod, or you can skip it... even the basic BWS has the option to customize the install... you just have to know how to use it.

[Shaitan]

The nameless sounds bitter, don't you think?

[erik]

Being splattered obviously never happens without this mod, level 1 characters being paragons of health, able to shrug off wolves with ease.

[Sorrow]

I can see where the OP is coming from. Percentage damage resistances are pretty pointless as it's not how armour works and isn't very useful in game.
Good protection model should be based on damage threshold and bypass. The AC model in AD&D seems to be an abstraction of both.

[erik]

Somewhat disagreed. A small fixed damage reduction in the 3E/IWD2 style would complement the percentage reduction very well. But since engine limitations do not allow this, discussing it is pretty pointless.

The mod is more comfortable at higher enchantment levels, I'll say that.

[Sorrow]

[Jarno Mikkola]

Sorrow, on Dec 10 2010, 09:22 PM, said:

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Yep, but the man didn't actually hit himself hard enough to damage himself, no need to wonder why.
Yes, it might seem as he was hitting hard, but human is not build to hit themselves, as that would be harmful for the offspring, but humans are build to hit others. Similar things can be said about the items used, the knives were knives, not daggers or short swords that can be used to piece the armor. And there needs to be sufficient materials to absorb the transfered energy(in the form of blunt damage), which of course makes the armor heavy.

A 100 kg's of wooden boards can take a lot of blunt damage as long as the speed of the projectile stays under the human melee standards, as the force is mostly about momentum, not the speed of the impact(guns)... where smaller-harder-more-brittle materials are far better when they are surrounded in mesh of elastic materials(example: bullet-proof-wests ).

[Sorrow]

Jarno Mikkola, on Dec 10 2010, 09:58 PM, said:

Sorrow, on Dec 10 2010, 09:22 PM, said:

youtube -video

Yep, but the man didn't actually hit himself hard enough to damage himself, no need to wonder why.
Yes, it might seem as he was hitting hard, but human is not build to hit themselves, as that would be harmful for the offspring, but humans are build to hit others. Similar things can be said about the items used, the knives were knives, not daggers or short swords that can be used to piece the armor.

You can cut yourself quite badly with a sharp knife, stabbing isn't advised too. And that guy suffered no damage. No damage, not, 85% of damage from stabs and 65% damage from slashes.
Also, good luck with stabbing a trained fighter hard enough to make one of those links break and have the weapon penetrate deep enough to do any sensible damage (i.e. without it for example, penetrating a few cm into flesh instead of impaling the guy) without immobilising him first.

Jarno Mikkola, on Dec 10 2010, 09:58 PM, said:

A 100 kg's of wooden boards can take a lot of blunt damage as long as the speed of the projectile stays under the human melee standards, as the force is mostly about momentum, not the speed of the impact(guns)... where smaller-harder-more-brittle materials are far better when they are surrounded in mesh of elastic materials(example: bullet-proof-wests ).

Which is why mail is used for anti-stab vests.

[cmorgan]

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Unfortunately BWP made me install this mod.

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The BWP installer is designed for customization. Please check that documentation, and uninstall the mod if it does not appeal to you. In a standard install, it is as simple as running the installer again; with BWP (especially if you have bif'd the final install) it may require some extra work, but is certainly possible.

On the "custom NPCs can't equip their own armor", can we get some specific feedback for erik? What NPC's? Using what tweaks (seeing as a "blind" BWP install, not making any informed choices, is bound to install tweaks the end-user is not aware they are using)? What other mods are installed (weidu.log)?

All of that would help you explore the issue, get resolution, and let you play your game. (Plus, it avoids negative communication that may simply be PEBKAC, and makes it more likely you will be listened to instead of politely and cheerfully ignored )

Edited by cmorgan, 06 October 2011 - 09:56 AM.