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[Andyr]

I am against adding racial restrictions for kits unless there is a good rationale for it. I don't think that having more than 9 installable kits is a good reason... Plus, many of the deities are not specifically human-Shar, Selune and Kossuth spring to mind!

The issue of weapons is one I agree with you on; we've thought a lot about different options but I'm not sure what we'll go with.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Miloch]

Guest, on Dec 12 2006, 02:22 AM, said:

...if the player is an elf, then the first kits to pop up in the list would be elven gods...

I think that bit is dictated by installation order. In other words, if you installed the Feywarden kit first, it would show up first for an elf (or 3rd or 4th if you didn't remove the default kits) no matter what. But if you installed it 10th you'd probably never see it (unless the other kits didn't allow elves). Your other suggestions make sense to me.

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damn bioware for only letting 9 kits be viewable!

Yes. Unfortunately that part is also 'OMG HARDC0D3D!' - not even messing with the GUI (like adding a scroll bar or more buttons) would change that.

Has anyone run with making more demihuman kit or deity profiles yet? I could probably work up a couple (maybe Gruumsh and Lolth) if there's interest.

[Gorilym]

Miloch, on Dec 12 2006, 11:31 PM, said:

I could probably work up a couple (maybe Gruumsh and Lolth) if there's interest.

Count me as interested in a Gruumsh kit.

Edited by Gorilym, 13 December 2006 - 02:25 AM.

[Andyr]

I'm planning a Gruumsh kit. It's an interesting idea to make demihuman deities appear first on the kit selection, though. But still, you could always just not install all the kits at once. We'll see.

[Grand_Dracolich]

Miloch, on Dec 12 2006, 05:31 PM, said:

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damn bioware for only letting 9 kits be viewable!

Yes. Unfortunately that part is also 'OMG HARDC0D3D!' - not even messing with the GUI (like adding a scroll bar or more buttons) would change that.

Can someone use Shadowkeeper or something to switch to a kit that won't show up, then?

Great mod, by the way! I love the sunscorch animation, I'm glad you didn't use the IWD2 animation for it.

[Miloch]

Grand_Dracolich, on Mar 28 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

Can someone use Shadowkeeper or something to switch to a kit that won't show up, then?

Actually, you should be able to do that in theory with the latest Blucher/Nythrun Monster Mod or whatever it's called. It still has a glitch or two to iron out but I'm sure those'll vanish in short order .

[Jab]

Hey.

I'll post some ideas for speciality priests, that I'd like to see in next versions.
Btw source of my informations:
Dragon Magazine #317 (there is a chapter about Holy Strategists)
http://www.nj-pbem.c...s/Faerunuan.htm or/
http://www.nj-pbem.c...a/Gods/Gods.htm
And of course Faiths and Pantheons.
(+ a piece of my imagination)

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HOLY STRATEGIST OF RED KNIGHT: Holy Strategist is the name by which a cleric of the Red Knight is known, and it is an apt title indeed. By devoting themselves to mastering military tactics and strategy, these militant clerics hone their minds and bodies into deadliest weapon in Faerûn. So impressive is their reputation that armies outnumbering their foes three to one have been known to surrender upon learning that a Holy Strategist leads the oposing force.

Collectively, the cleric of the Red Knight are referred to as the Red Fellowship. Many members serve as high-ranking commanders in armies throughout Faerûn, often personally leading elite "special forces" units. Others who are not directly in the employ of the church serve as instructors at military academies or as quartermasters in charge of keeping the troops on the front line fed and supplied. If they the are not in a battle, Holy Strategists wear flowing robes of red accent with white.

Holy Strategists of Red Knight can only be of Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral and Lawful Evil alignments.

Abilities:
- Spiritual Weapon: Longsword - 'Checkmate' once per day
The Checkmate is the spiritual weapon of Holy Strategists, and is wielded as if the caster had grand mastery in the weapon. The Checkmate is a regular weapon at levels 1-5, +1 at levels 6-10, +2 at 11-15, +3 at 16-20, +4 at 21-25, and +5 at levels 26 and above. The spiritual weapon lasts for one round per level of the caster, up to 20 rounds.
- At 7th level, holy strategists can make three melee attacks every two rounds and two melee attacks per round at 13th level.
- From level 7 can cast Clairvoyance once per day, as third level mage spell of the same name
- From level 9 can cast Defensive Harmony once per day, as fourth level cleric spell of the same name
- From level 11 can cast True Seeing once per day, as fifth level cleric spell of the same name
- From level 14 can cast Mantle once per day, as seventh level mage spell of the same name

Sphere Access:
- Major access to the spheres of all, charm, combat, divination, guardian, healing, law, protection, war
- Minor access to the spheres of creation, necromantic, thought, travelers, wards
- No access to the spheres of animal, astral, chaos, elemental, numbers, plant, summoning, sun, time, weather

Next should be "Sword dancer of Eilistraee."

Edited by Jab, 04 November 2007 - 04:06 AM.

[Andyr]

I like the Holy Strategist.

[Jab]

Slightly changed few of his special abilities to made him more helpful for a party. Btw as HLA he could use Mass Haste and Mass Heal from IWD 2 as 7th level cleric spells (also abilities of DnD War Priests; btw Mass Heal would be useful for priests of Ilmater and perhaps Lathander) and fighter's War Cry (of course) as special ability. Btw I don't think, that he should have cleric's HLA Elemental Summoning and Implosion (too anti-one-guy).

Edited by Jab, 31 October 2007 - 05:54 AM.

[Miloch]

This would make a good paladin kit too (there seem to be fewer of those than cleric kits).

[Jab]

Miloch, on Oct 31 2007, 05:58 PM, said:

This would make a good paladin kit too (there seem to be fewer of those than cleric kits).

Although there is a paladin order of Red Knight (called Order of Red Falcon), they have only "substitution levels" (see Champions of Valor guidebook) for their paladin levels.
BUT, thanks to you, I realized, that "Sword Dancer of Eilistraee" is an impossible kit for a cleric and I will make him ranger instead (which fits much better in BG 2). He has so many abilities attached to bastard swords (and single weapon style), that I was really frustrated while I was changing their names. And Sword Dancer without a sword would be a really good joke.

[Jab]

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SWORD DANCER: Eilistraee the Dark Maiden encourages drow to return to the surface world and reestablish themselves as rightful, nonevil inhabitants of the Night Above. Although they need not be drow themselves, Sword Dancers are expected to lead that migration and work to promote harmony between drow and surface-dwelling races. They nurture beauty, music, the craft of making musical instruments, and song wherever they find it, assist hunters and hunting, and help others in acts of kindness whenever they see ways to do so.

Drow and half-drow are by far the most common races to adopt the sword dancer class, but other races, particularly half-elves, humans, and surface elves, venerate the Dark Maiden as well.

Sword dancers usually dwell together in small groups in places where other elven races might dwell. Most frequent woodland glades where they gather to dance, sing, and engage in swordplay under the light of the moon. When relaxing, they favor silvery, diaphanous gowns.

Sword Dancers cannot be Lawful Good.

Advantages:
- Infravision
- Can have Grand Mastery in Bastard Swords
- Can cast 'Sword Song' ability once per day. It lasts 1 round per level of the caster and gives a bonus of +2 to hit and damage and +3 to all saving throws.
- At 13th level gets 'Silverhair Armor' once per day. Sword Dancer's hair becomes infused with divine energy and glows softly with silver light. For 12 hours, as long as she is not wearing armor, she gains a +2 bonus to her Armor Class. This bonus increases by +2 every four levels after 13th.

Disadvantages:
- Can only wear Leather, Studded Leather Armor and Elven Chain Mail
- Cannot use shields
- Cannot use two weapons

So, it's a kit fo rangers. Sword Dancers have many advantages but also some big disadvantages. Btw I strongly suggest Magic Flute as HLA for him (or her). And I hope, that he can cast (as a Ranger) Faerie Fire and Moonblade spells.
There are no racial restrictions, because of drows (half-drows) from subrace mods (I think, that in BG2 they are considered as a new - non-elvish - race).

Btw my sources:
Faiths & Pantheons
http://www.wizards.c...nd/ei/20030902a

P.S. Vlasák wrote me, that there could be problems with implementing weapon and armor restrictions of the sword dancer. Maybe it would be best, if he would has same restrictions as Thief, with the exception of five possible * in bastard swords...

"0x40B2 HasItemSlot(O:Object*,I:Slot*SLOTS)
NT Returns true only if the specified object has an item in the specified slot." - That should be the way, how to deal with the 'Silverhair Armor' ability. = Invisible creature would test the slot in the inventory and, if empty, cast the spell (/ability).

btw alternative special abilities for Holy Strategist without (maybe too powerful) HLAs "Mass Heal" and "Mass Haste":

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- From level 7 can cast Haste once per day, as third level mage spell of the same name
- From level 11 can cast Mass Cure once per day, as fifth level cleric spell of the same name

- Still stylish. :-)

Edited by Jab, 07 November 2007 - 07:13 AM.